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thevalleyranchreport
08-21-2007, 04:02 PM
Vick is damaged goods, someone MAY take a gamble on him, but can you imagine all the bad press, and all the boycotting, what a nightmare.
Cowboys' next controversial WR?
AP
Superstar columnist Jean-Jacques Taylor believes that Mike Vick should be allowed to resume his NFL career after he's released from prison. Vick will likely miss the next three seasons while serving time and an NFL suspension.
Prediction: He'll come back as a Cowboy.
No, I don't think Vick will replace Tony Romo. ESPN cohorts Emmitt Smith and Bill Parcells -- odd couple, huh? -- talked about how tough it would be for a quarterback to sit that long and keep sharp. Especially a QB who struggled with accuracy anyway. Emmitt mentioned that Vick might have a better shot of playing receiver and returning punts and kicks.
Betcha a light bulb popped up over Jerry's head when he heard that. Jerry has never shied away from controversial figures if he thought they'd sell tickets and score touchdowns. Randy Moss is an exception, and a regret, for that matter.
Vick is on the short list of the most electric athletes in NFL history. You'd hope he'd be humbled after a year or two in the pokey and would accept a position change. Seriously doubt any NFL team would put want him leading their team as a QB anyway.
You might question whether Vick will be as quick at age 30. However, my guess is that his time in the pen will only improve his elusiveness.
If Vick sits the next three seasons, he'll return just in time to help the Cowboys get to the Super Bowl in JerryWorld. Get yo' Milk Bones ready!!!
lcboysfan
08-21-2007, 04:51 PM
Somebody Revoke Taylor's Media Card because he's obviously has gone nuts or is trying to get his name further out there?
maxdallasfan
08-21-2007, 04:53 PM
That was ridiculous.
lcboysfan
08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
That was ridiculous.[/b]
He must be vying for a job at ESPN :lol:
b_cadvantag
08-21-2007, 06:52 PM
No way Jerry brings him to Dallas, esp with the new stadium coming!
We dont need that @$$hole in Dallas. He can go to canada and play with wolves there...
DallasBoys
08-21-2007, 07:14 PM
You know, every time I hear commentators asking if Vick will ever play in the NFL again and who would even think to give him another chance, my first thought is the Dallas freakin Cowboys. Now, my view is screw that a-hole for butchering dogs in his own yard...and as for his "talent", call me stupid but to me, the guy was a great runner with a football who also occasionally completed a pass (oh yeah, QB's PASS the football!) and will never win a Superbowl...but somehow, I can totally see Jerry signing this moron down the road. I don't know guys....it smells just like something Jerry would do.
BSchank
08-21-2007, 07:18 PM
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit while reading this.
DallasBoys
08-21-2007, 08:04 PM
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit while reading this.[/b]
I will let out a full-on chunk blow if it happens. The most troubling thing to me is, it has a very real chance to actually happen.
kdog55
08-21-2007, 09:55 PM
Yeah, we might as well admit it. It is definetely not out of the realm of possibility.
mcaje
08-21-2007, 11:13 PM
I know we are all early on in the whole Michael Vick hating thing, but three years from now.....I still won't like him.
maxdallasfan
08-22-2007, 12:35 AM
Jerry signed T.O., so I wouldn't put anything past him.
Cowboyzadam
08-22-2007, 02:13 AM
Jean Jacques-Taylor is one of my favorite writers but even I said what the hell are you thinking? I have learned to say nothing is impossible in the NFL these days but that scenario is just plain stupid. We would have to be really hard up to need or have to go after that bozo.
tlbabin
08-22-2007, 06:24 AM
Man this kind of speculation is rubbish right now. Nobody even knows how long he will be out of football. Besides Vick has been turned into O.J. Lite. I doubt the public (and media) perception of him is going to change in a year or two. I guess if we're gonna add a guy with a shady reputation we might as well sign Tank Johnson the 2nd half of this season. At least he won't get picketed.
Cowboyzadam
08-22-2007, 11:04 AM
Man this kind of speculation is rubbish right now. Nobody even knows how long he will be out of football. Besides Vick has been turned into O.J. Lite. I doubt the public (and media) perception of him is going to change in a year or two. I guess if we're gonna add a guy with a shady reputation we might as well sign Tank Johnson the 2nd half of this season. At least he won't get picketed.[/b]
Now there's a scenario I could certainly live with. Good point Darkseid.
DallasBoys
08-22-2007, 12:47 PM
Man this kind of speculation is rubbish right now. Nobody even knows how long he will be out of football. Besides Vick has been turned into O.J. Lite. I doubt the public (and media) perception of him is going to change in a year or two. I guess if we're gonna add a guy with a shady reputation we might as well sign Tank Johnson the 2nd half of this season. At least he won't get picketed.[/b]
Hey we signed a guy who basically quit his on his team because of a contract dispute...I thought the owners would band together and not offer Owens a contract after that. Our man Jerry sure did!
Anyway, we are getting WAY ahead of ourselves here. Just don't surprised if in three years we are talking about our new acquisition, Michael Vick.
DCfan60
08-22-2007, 04:33 PM
What a moron. Jerry isnt that dumb
erieboybds
08-22-2007, 05:04 PM
It really makes me wonder where people's sense of journalism has gone! What is he trying to turn into a gossip column? Come on now...
The Cowboys will not pick up Vick, regardless. We have spent the past 7+ years cleaning the team of those types of distractions.
lcboysfan
08-22-2007, 08:36 PM
And how did that work out?
I'll give you the answer; He led the NFL with 13 touchdown receptions, second most ever by a Cowboys receiver dating all the way back to Frank Clarke in 1962 with 14. He also led the team in both receptions, at 85, and receiving yards with 1,180. But I guess that doesn't count for much these days.
As for Vick, the NFL is all about talent, not a popularity contest; That's what the Pro Bowl is for (don't even get me started on that one). You don't pass up talent if it's available. If you do, someone else will step up and snag it. How would you feel if the Boys lost the NFC Championship Game to a team that had Michael Vick throw the game winning score on a WR toss into the endzone? I'll bet you would all begin to second guess your moral stances right about then. :o[/b]
Nice to see ya back
DallasBoys
08-22-2007, 09:30 PM
And how did that work out?
I'll give you the answer; He led the NFL with 13 touchdown receptions, second most ever by a Cowboys receiver dating all the way back to Frank Clarke in 1962 with 14. He also led the team in both receptions, at 85, and receiving yards with 1,180. But I guess that doesn't count for much these days.
As for Vick, the NFL is all about talent, not a popularity contest; That's what the Pro Bowl is for (don't even get me started on that one). You don't pass up talent if it's available. If you do, someone else will step up and snag it. How would you feel if the Boys lost the NFC Championship Game to a team that had Michael Vick throw the game winning score on a WR toss into the endzone? I'll bet you would all begin to second guess your moral stances right about then. :o[/b]
And how did that workout? Well, for one thing, it's not finished being "worked out" yet....I'm still betting that T.O. has a melt down this year. It ain't over yet. And it's a real shallow individual who looks only at results when dealing with people. Twice now teams have taken a chance on Owens as the "final piece of the puzzle" to get their team to a Superbowl title, and neither has won one yet. If that's not Owens' fault, then why have him onboard at all? I think the past two drafts have shown the league that there is a world of "talent" at WR if you are willing to develop it.
Are you justifying picking up Vick because he has talent? Please pal...knock it off. Talent is not lacking in the NFL, character is much harder to come by. And its one thing when your crime is among consenting adults (see Michael Irvin's stripper cocaine party), but it's another when you are butchering dogs in your backyard and setting them loose on each other to act on instinct and tear each other to shreds. He is getting what he deserves, and if that means passing up his kick returning skills (because he sucks as a QB), even if he becomes the planet's greatest kick returner ever for the Eagles, Giants, or Redskins to beat my Cowboys in the playoffs, then that is fine by me. I don't regret what might have been, only actual mistakes. Putting this butcher on your team is a mistake I cannot imagine. Failing to tackle Michael Vick on a big play is just poor defense, and I can live with that.
"I'll bet you would all begin to second guess your moral stances right about then." Apparently YOU would...dern shame
tlbabin
08-23-2007, 12:27 AM
DallasBoys I've got no interest in Vick either, primarily because I don't think that the the Cowboys will need his football skills in 2 to 3 years. However, I'm not of the opinion that Vick should never play again. Look, I'm quite satisfied that Vick will be doing time for breaking the law...but I'm not exactly equating it to capturing Bin Laden or something. Come to think of it, I think Osama might have a higher approval rating at this point.
Cowboyzadam
08-23-2007, 12:43 AM
And how did that work out?
I'll give you the answer; He led the NFL with 13 touchdown receptions, second most ever by a Cowboys receiver dating all the way back to Frank Clarke in 1962 with 14. He also led the team in both receptions, at 85, and receiving yards with 1,180. But I guess that doesn't count for much these days.
As for Vick, the NFL is all about talent, not a popularity contest; That's what the Pro Bowl is for (don't even get me started on that one). You don't pass up talent if it's available. If you do, someone else will step up and snag it. How would you feel if the Boys lost the NFC Championship Game to a team that had Michael Vick throw the game winning score on a WR toss into the endzone? I'll bet you would all begin to second guess your moral stances right about then. :o[/b]
I would not like it at all if we lost the NFC Championship Game because of something Vick did to beat us. No Cowboys Fan would. Even with that fact stated I still would not want the dumb @ss on the Cowboys team. It is not my decision to make so Jerry will do what he will do but there is no Talent in the NFL or Game that will ever effect my morals and what I believe in...none. If one person is to allow a Football players talents level to lower their moral level then their morals were not that strong to begin with.
Cowboyzadam
08-23-2007, 03:09 AM
Cowboys discuss Vick situation.
Michael Vick and Leonard Davis were the top two picks in the 2001 NFL Draft. That may be where the similarities end.
Both have made headlines for their encounters with animals recently – but for very different reasons.
Last May, Davis was given the Compassionate Action Award by PETA for saving a horse that fell in a sink hole near his Chandler, Ariz., home. Davis drove his tractor across the street, put some straps on the horse's waist and used the tractor to pull the horse out. On Monday, Vick agreed to plead guilty to federal conspiracy charges for his role in a dogfighting ring.
Vick's impending prison term, which is expected to last at least one year, and a likely suspension from the NFL were a topic of conversation inside the Cowboys' locker room Tuesday, although some players were reluctant to speak about Vick.
"You gotta do the right things," Davis said. "You hate to hear that something like that has to happen, but we're no different than just the regular person out there. You can't really go around thinking we're above the law or nothing like that. We've got to watch ourselves, the things we do and the people we're around just as much as anybody else. The difference is we're in the public eye."
Wade Phillips was the Atlanta Falcons' defensive coordinator from 2002 to 2003 and replaced Dan Reeves as head coach for the final three games of the regular season in '03. Vick threw four touchdown passes to help Atlanta to a 2-1 mark under Phillips.
"Mike, with me, on the field worked hard," Phillips said. "And you just don't know what people are doing off the field, and he just made an awful, awful mistake and he's going to have to pay for it. But I don't think Mike Vick is a bad person. He made a bad life choice, certainly, but just being around him, guys that work hard and are honest with you at practice, I respect him that way. But certainly what he did nobody can [defend]."
Tight end Jason Witten is one of 12 players on the Conduct Advisory Committee that took part in a conference call with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday. Formed in February at the NFL Scouting Combine, the committee has been one avenue Goodell has used to get players' input on off-field behavior issues.
"I think it's a wake-up for a lot of players," linebacker Bradie James said. "Before we even thought about playing in the NFL, somebody's been around or heard about dogfighting. We were talking the other day that we didn't know it was a felony and then it became federal. But now, if whoever was in it and you've got a pit bull, you need to let the pit bull go. It's not even worth it."
While not condoning the actions of Vick or Tennessee cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, who is suspended for the year, or Cincinnati receiver Chris Henry, who is suspended for eight games, veteran cornerback Aaron Glenn would like to see the league have mandatory meetings involving former players that have gone through hardships to help younger players deal with the pressures of being rich and famous.
Glenn said the hardest thing for players to do is to stop being friends with people from childhood who may be doing the wrong things.
"I know it's not easy to be in the situation he's in or for anybody who has grown up in a situation like I hear he grew up in. It's tough to change. It's not going to be easy for him unless he has some help," Glenn said. "Collectively, something has to happen where guys can get help, because it can only enhance themselves and the league. Nobody can say this doesn't give a black eye to the guy or the league. Am I right, or am I wrong?"
snoopbusta
08-24-2007, 02:33 AM
DallasBoys I've got no interest in Vick either, primarily because I don't think that the the Cowboys will need his football skills in 2 to 3 years. However, I'm not of the opinion that Vick should never play again. Look, I'm quite satisfied that Vick will be doing time for breaking the law...but I'm not exactly equating it to capturing Bin Laden or something. Come to think of it, I think Osama might have a higher approval rating at this point.[/b]
yea but vick does not have a 25 million dollar bounty on his head... if anybody knows where this fool is tell me first I promise to split the money!
DallasBoys
08-24-2007, 03:04 PM
yea but vick does not have a 25 million dollar bounty on his head... if anybody knows where this fool is tell me first I promise to split the money![/b]
I'm with Snoop here. Anyone who has ever owned a dog and loved it, would never ever do what this moron did. It is incomprehensible to me. And for those who say "well it's not like he killed someone", keep in mind that what he did do was use innocent animals' instincts for sport by having them tear each other apart. And, if a dog didn't perform well enough (by clamping on another dog's jugular), he would beat them, smash them, or drown them to death. At least using a human for sex or criminal acts means you've used someone who is presumably capable of using his/her brain to decide their actions...these dogs are completely incapcable of decision-making, they act on instinct. Send him to prison and ban him for life from the NFL. How on earth can he come back? How on earth can the NFL allow it? He's not sorry...he's sorry he got caught. :angry:
Again, if you've ever owned a dog in your life and experienced the love of a faithful dog, you would never have anything to do with this madman again.
maxdallasfan
08-24-2007, 03:31 PM
I doubt Vick ever steps foot on an NFL field again. Any team that signs him will be targeted by animal rights people- picketing at every game. No owner wants that.
DallasBoys
08-24-2007, 07:02 PM
Oh pahleez. Give me a break.
NFL owners are in it for just one thing...money$$$. Don't kid yourself by saying they are in it to win. Winning results in improved revenue, period! If signing a guy like Michael Vick three years from now when everyone has forgiven and forgotten improves your win/loss standings, then so be it.
And another thing, no respectable owner is going to be afraid of some dog hugging protestors. Don't get me wrong, I love my Doggs just as much as the next guy, but I'm not so blinded as not realize the fact that other people are doing things in the privacy of their own home that I might not agree with.
They're animal rights protestors, not Al Qaeda.[/b]
How about this, Cowboy fans boycott all merchandise for one year? It may not be Al-Qaeda, bt it wold hurt where it counts.
And bringin in Michael Vick after two years away from football, having been a medicore QB before then, and with a felony record of conspiracy is not a good idea for ANY owner on any team. How many Vick jerseys are you going to sell? besides the protests, you'd lose sponsors at the new stadium, and TV advertisers would drop their ads during Cowboy telecasts. even with todays plea to lesser crimes, Vick's career is toast. And rightly so.
b_cadvantag
08-24-2007, 08:00 PM
Oh pahleez. Give me a break.
NFL owners are in it for just one thing...money$$$. Don't kid yourself by saying they are in it to win. Winning results in improved revenue, period! If signing a guy like Michael Vick three years from now when everyone has forgiven and forgotten improves your win/loss standings, then so be it.
And another thing, no respectable owner is going to be afraid of some dog hugging protestors. Don't get me wrong, I love my Doggs just as much as the next guy, but I'm not so blinded as not realize the fact that other people are doing things in the privacy of their own home that I might not agree with.
They're animal rights protestors, not Al Qaeda.[/b]
Just trying to get someone's goat with a comment with that. Cant believe that you really put any thought into a comment like that.
Cowboyzadam
08-25-2007, 03:48 AM
Like I said before. What Vick did to me makes him not even worth wasting your breath talking about him let alone wondering if he will come back at some point into the NFL. Nothing is impossible anymore in the NFL but I bet you if he ever does come back and a team signs him...he will not have a very friendly fan base.
Right now most people think he's a complete asshole with a total disregard to animal life. I am one NFL fan who agrees with that sentiment 100%.
mcaje
08-25-2007, 04:21 AM
Agreed Adam!
Cruelty is something that has to be typically learned. I'm not making any judgment calls here, but I'd venture a guess that Michael Vick's past is probably littered with unscrupulous acts eventually resulting in a blatant disregard for common decency.
It's obvious from his recent statements that he doesn't acknowledge that he did anything wrong, just illegal.
Cowboyzadam
08-25-2007, 12:24 PM
Agreed Adam!
Cruelty is something that has to be typically learned. I'm not making any judgment calls here, but I'd venture a guess that Michael Vick's past is probably littered with unscrupulous acts eventually resulting in a blatant disregard for common decency.
It's obvious from his recent statements that he doesn't acknowledge that he did anything wrong, just illegal.[/b]
It is sad but very true Mitch. You and I are usually on the same page with things and this topic is no different. Yeah he admits guilt because he knew they had a HUGE amount of evidence to put him away for a long time. His admittance to guilt makes his sentence a lot smaller but your right...I did not pick up any true remorse from him other than his anger and fear at being caught. :angry:
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